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Apr 3 09 1:17 PM

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Hi gang
 
A couple of questions were raised in another thread about completeness of collections and items potentially being worth a lot in the future. In a refreshing new move to avoid hi-jacking the original thread, we've started two new onesgrin. The "completeness" thread is here, the future of our collections:
 
What will our collections be worth in 30 years? If you have a rare piece now, do you think it will be part of your "pension plan" in years to come? Will our generation still be actively collecting  (assuming we don't need to sell the collections off to pay bills)? Will younger generations be interested in toys made before they were born?
 
Steam trains and tin/wind-up toys seem to have a timeless appeal - will our 12" friend join the ranks of classic toys? Has he already done so?
 
Does anyone have experience of inheriting collections from a previous generation? I have heard that some investors are putting their money into collectibles rather than stocks and shares - have you or anyone you know done the same?
 
I would be interested in your views - everyone's opinion countssmile

Daren

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Apr 3 09 1:22 PM

who' knows m8   my luck it be worth bugger all as no one wil have hered of action man or all the leftys will ban sale of anything war like so  just send all your stuff to me and i look after  for you ..

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Apr 3 09 1:31 PM

I for one do not think that action man has a timeless appeal. Once we go, it goes as a collected item. I had the very same conversation with Drena some years ago and I know it hurts when you consider how much you have spent over the years but action man is a niche item, we collect for different reasons but that it is borne out of nostalgia most of the time. For me it was my most treasured toy as a boy. I simply do not see the young of today wanting to collect MAM in  years to come with the same passion that we now collect vintage.
It is our generation that fuels this hobby. I will never stop collecting action man.

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Apr 3 09 1:39 PM

 i feel sorry for the new kids that never had action man  i given my son 2 now cryingand he loves the wee guys .. and their vintage not 40th as the 40th fell apart and he was very upset  so he got the real deal nowgrin.. i just get upset when he pulls and twistes the action men  im loke wowooooow stop it be nice hes over 40years old LOL .i hope my son enjoys action men as long as i have .. long live action man  and the VAME

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Apr 3 09 2:32 PM

Great thread Daren! grin Cat brings some very interesting points to the table and I do agree with him, But I do find myself wondering sometimes is just nostalgia? I have gone a little crazy over painted heads at the moment and that is something I said I would never do, don't remember them as a kid did not want them in my collection but I have moved to that era why? can't be nostalgia? got to be honest with you now too, Action Man was not the be all and end all for me as a kid, I remember my first, I remember playing in my mates garden and I remember going to buy items but thats it, my biggest love being a 71 baby was Star Wars, I have many memory's of that, do I collect Star Wars now? no I don't and never will although it would be very nostalgic of me! (I do own full size stormtrooper armour though but thats different wink)
I think buying one Action Man is nostalgic but lets face it we all own small divisions, why? Action Man will always be a collectable more so I think then GI Joe or Action Team etc, just look at eBay UK and compare it to around the world, lets face it I won a GI Joe painted rivits, Pat Pending painted head in mint nick the other night on eBay USA for a tenner, wish you could buy them here for that sad Once we are gone they will fall into the hands of the toy/doll collector so there will always be a market for them.

OK next point, are we buying for the future investment? Yes I think if we are being honest then we are, I think I will always own Action Man but when is enough, enough? I counted last night that since November I have purchased 61 Action Man surprise thats without the ones I have owned since starting collecting, If I carry on at this rate where will I stick them all in 20 years time!

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Apr 3 09 2:33 PM

I agree with Cat, it does seem to be our generation buying VAM even the 40th,maybe a few bought for younger kids of today but the majority for nostalgic reasons (then the bug bites!) so i think in years  to come there will not be that much interest from a collecting  point of view,unlike other vintage toy collectables theres nothing to fuel its continued collecting,possibly thanks to the 40th we have a temporary surge but nothing like say TV/FILM related stuff eg: Star Wars,this will continue to draw new collectors due to all the re-runs and newly formed fans,so it will be very interesting to see what happenswink

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Apr 3 09 2:45 PM

hi im a 71 baby and i got acttion men and no star wars stuff i alway had action men for xmas birthdays and good boy toys LOL then i tryed the start wars stuff mmm ok at the time but it ent away and out came the action men again then as i got older it started lego i had them fo a few years then went away and back to action men i still bought action man when i was 18 to 20 years old dident play with them it was open and put them on a wee guy and in to storage .. just like daz .. LOL form say 20 to 33 years old  i never even seen an action men then fee bay and rest is costly .. i had around 300 action men at one time to me thats abloody lot now i say around  150 ..  i hop in yeas to come they will be worth a bomb .. but if they are not who cares ....i have them and  i love the look and playing with them ..best toy in the world .. 

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Apr 3 09 2:48 PM

What will mine be worth? To me? The same. To someone else? Probably nowt!
I must admit I used to collect for "investment" purposes, but realized having a
mint Cricketeer or Hussar (both ends of the spectrum there!) meant less than having
a nice Red Devil or Deep Sea Diver.
After I flogged my old collection I didn't miss it for about 5 years. Then started picking
up odds n sods again.
As you've seen, I've managed to accrue a neat collection, nothing TOO specific, just figures
and uniforms that appeal to ME!!
And at the end of the day, I believe EVERYTHING you do in life should make YOU happy.
Once YOU are happy, you can make others happy.
OMG! I'm turning into a hippy tree hugger!!!

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Apr 3 09 2:48 PM

reach 100 yers .!!!!EASY  my sons 40th dident reach 1 hour...so just hope we live long to see him reach 100 years old .. LOL... will he get a letter from the  king or queen ??????? for his 100 year old birthday

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Apr 3 09 4:09 PM

I think Action Man will be up there alongside all the famous toys of each era , 60 s 70 s 80s etc (Dinky, Matchbox, Corgi, Hornby, Sindy , Barbie  etc) and beyond (Computer Games, Nintendo, Playstation   etc) . There is always going to be a certain toy that will last as it broke new ground - Action man is definately one of them and I don't think it is just because of the current collectors and our age groups - it is an iconic toy that changed the way "boys" played i.e with dolls - unheard of before then .

As for values - yes they will hold , I have no doubt of that.                    grin 

Long Live ACTION MAN 

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Apr 3 09 4:29 PM






I for one do not think that action man has a timeless appeal. Once we go, it goes as a collected item....... For me it was my most treasured toy as a boy.....
  
I simply do not see the young of today wanting to collect MAM in  years to come with the same passion that we now collect vintage.....


-catweazle





 
My thoughts have been running along similar lines. Who will want them after we have finished with them? 
 



....Cat brings some very interesting points to the table and I do agree with him, But I do find myself wondering sometimes is just nostalgia? I have gone a little crazy over painted heads ...[I] don't remember them as a kid did not want them in my collection but I have moved to that era why? can't be nostalgia? got to be honest with you now too, Action Man was not the be all and end all for me as a kid,


-trooper71





 
Exactly.  For me, there is a large element of "getting the sets I didn't have as a kid but always wanted" but this doesn't explain why I haven't been out buying up all of the comics I had (apart from the Starlord ones) or the matchbox/corgi cars, etc. and it doesn't explain why I have bought AM sets that I didn't even know existed until I started collecting.
 
 


 

 
.... (I do own full size stormtrooper armour though but thats different [image])

-trooper71







 
Yes I know, I've got the photo devil (I know, I know, it was for "Charity".grin
 


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Once we are gone they will fall into the hands of the toy/doll collector so there will always be a market for them.

-trooper71







 
Interesting point. There are other "end users" of vintage Action Man products. I went to a toy museum "oop north" a couple of years back (I've posted pics in this thread). Has anyone come across any other examples of VAM turning up elsewhere?


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If I carry on at this rate where will I stick them all in 20 years time!
 

-trooper71







 
I've got an empty corner in my garage..... grin
 


 
What will mine be worth? To me? The same. 
 

-baz1







 
That's the best attitude as far as I am concerned
 


 

 And at the end of the day, I believe EVERYTHING you do in life should make YOU happy.Once YOU are happy, you can make others happy.OMG! I'm turning into a hippy tree hugger!!! 
 

-baz1







 
Awwww, big huggg! 
 
 


 
I think Action Man will be up there alongside all the famous toys of each era , 60 s 70 s 80s etc (Dinky, Matchbox, Corgi, Hornby, Sindy , Barbie  etc) and beyond (Computer Games, Nintendo, Playstation   etc) . ..... it is an iconic toy that changed the way "boys" played i.e with dolls - unheard of before then . 
  

-actiontrooper




 

Good point.
 
When I got home from work my wife showed me an internet article about the new range of MOD action figures. As I strolled up to the commando training centre to get my eldest demolition expert (or "fetched my eldest child from school" to use the official code-phrase) I was wondering why they had launched them, when there had not been a demand for action figures for some time (to quote the newspapers). 
 
It occurred to me that Action Man had play value to us when we were kids (small kids I mean grin) but the modern figures released by DiD, etc might not. Vintage AM may have had a few items aimed specifically at collectors (I'm thinking about the ceremonials in the "corner" boxes here) but despite the detail of the early GI-Joe sets which were clearly designed by people who had worn the uniforms for real, there was no realism but that didn't matter to us. 
 
We grew up in a time where comics could get away with phrases like "cop this pineapple you sausage nosher". We knew pretty much what was right and wrong, what was considered acceptable behaviour (gender- and race-equality apart) and VAM fitted into that ethos. Modern action figures are designed for collectors and modellers - the detail is superb but for me there is not as much play value. As a kid I certainly didn't want anything more than the uniform, hats and guns. Things like the officer's baton or even dog tags weren't of interest (they can't have been because I don't remember either of those things and I still have my Camp Kommandant set from when I was a kid). Where will the MOD action figures fit in to the daily routine of most of the current generation of children? I could see an MOD computer game being more popular than an action figure. They would have to make it more "humanitarian aid" than "washing pans and polishing boots" thoughgrin
 
For me, nostalgia plays a huge part in collecting VAM, not just for Action Man itself but also the 70s which is the period I have the most vivid childhood memories of. I mentioned on the old site that when I first started collecting VAM I opened an equipment catalogue and had a flash-back to being 8 or 9, looking through a similar catalogue and saying "I wish I had one of those, oooh and one of those, ooh and.......". No other toy/film/book/item has caused that. I can't help wondering if today's action figures will evoke the same feelings in their owners 30 years from now.
 


 

  Long Live ACTION MAN  
 

-actiontrooper








I'm running that up the flag pole and I'm saluting it  
 
What does anybody else think?

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Apr 3 09 4:39 PM


I have the most vivid childhood memories of. I mentioned on the old site that when I first started collecting VAM I opened an equipment catalogue and had a flash-back to being 8 or 9, looking through a similar catalogue and saying "I wish I had one of those, oooh and one of those, ooh and.......". No other toy/film/book/item has caused that. I can't help wondering if today's action figures will evoke the same feelings in their owners 30 years from now.   

-deeyem


WOW - I used to do exactly the same and can remember marvelling over the equipment manuals and wishing I had more than just my four outfits.

God - I've got goose bumps running up my back.                       smile

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